tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post449976644957057093..comments2023-10-26T12:19:08.652+01:00Comments on Cllr Joe Ryan's Blog: Political pantomime leaves us with 7 dwarfs!Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13337418092426100439noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-7580379885150835522011-01-27T01:36:41.307+00:002011-01-27T01:36:41.307+00:00Joe,
I didn't know Declan Ganley was standing...Joe,<br /><br />I didn't know Declan Ganley was standing in Wexford. He certainly would not get a high preference from me. I am voting for Kelly, Dwyer and O'Brien. Not necessarily in that order of preference.<br /><br />I like the term Free State, and since this is supposed to be a free country, I will continue to use it.<br /><br />RoryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-82574408205725701632011-01-26T23:47:20.003+00:002011-01-26T23:47:20.003+00:00BTW the Free State hasn't existed since 1937! ...BTW the Free State hasn't existed since 1937! Like the EEC the state has moved on! <br />I note your interest in giving a preference vote for candidates oppposed to Lisbon. I'm amazed that you believe that the likes of Declan Ganley would share IRSP/INLA values.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13337418092426100439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-69799897634117241312011-01-26T19:59:35.973+00:002011-01-26T19:59:35.973+00:00Joe,
The IRSP has always had a policy of involvin...Joe,<br /><br />The IRSP has always had a policy of involving itself in 'broad left' fronts and movements. Anything that creates political awareness among the working class is a good thing and there is nothing like a general election to create political awareness.<br /><br />My own <b>personal</b> litmus test on whether a candidate deserves a preference from me in this election is their, or their party's position on the Lisbon Referendum (I voted NO both times).<br /><br />The IRSP is not part of the United Left Alliance so I can not comment on their political befiefs. The IRSP position on the ULA can be read by clicking on the link below.:<br /><br /><a href="http://rsmforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=4748" rel="nofollow">IRSP Position On United Left Alliance</a><br /><br />RoryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-10601919288246958822011-01-26T18:14:34.394+00:002011-01-26T18:14:34.394+00:00If the IRSP doesn't believe that there is a de...If the IRSP doesn't believe that there is a democratic route to socialism what are you doing involving yourself in an election? Does ULA share this view and does the ULA candidate support this stand?<br />I strongly suspect that the vast bulk of people believe in democracy and that's where Labour and the IRSP differ. You seem to have a pre-conceived view of the outcome of any government. <br />The problem with ULA is who leads it and whether it will follow a SP or SWM line and where their view on the north is a recipe for a split. <br />The last time Labour was in power, the country was in a hell of a better state than it has been left today.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13337418092426100439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-49744545975216862932011-01-26T11:38:16.420+00:002011-01-26T11:38:16.420+00:00Joe,
By unsing the word 'ragbag' in inver...Joe,<br /><br />By unsing the word <i>'ragbag'</i> in inverted commas I was making a sarcastic reference to Rosin Shorthall's recent derogitory comments about other left-wing parties and groups.<br /><br />While ther IRSP does not believe that there is a democratic route to socialism we do believe in the formation of broad left alliances. <br /><br />Personally I am disapointed at the Labour Party's arrogant dismissial of the United Left Alliance and Sinn Fein. I am also sorry that the ULA have not taken a more concilliatory approch to Labour.<br /><br />I see a possibility of a majority left wing government in this state within the next five years. <br /><br />No doubt Labour will mess this up by discrediting the left while in goverment with the most right wing party in the dail (Fine Gael) yet again.<br /><br />I would love to see the right (Fianna Fail, Fine Gael and the Greens) forced to work together against a united left. It would be the best thing that has ever happened to poltical debate in the Free State.<br /><br />RoryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-9739880541821653192011-01-25T21:33:32.833+00:002011-01-25T21:33:32.833+00:00I wasn't aware Seamus was running. As you know...I wasn't aware Seamus was running. As you know the Greens have yet to select a candidate too so I never said the poll was complete. I think its unfair of you to refer to John Dwyer and Anthony Kelly as ragbag candidates.<br /><br />You seem to be at cross purposes Labour is opposed to the Finance Bill and will be voting against the bill. Only since the Labour No confidence motion has the pending Finance Bill developed into a key issue. I think Eamon Gilmore should get due credit from the left for a shrewd decision on that. <br />You're right when you ask does Labour pretend to be left wing, it doesn't have to pretend, it is and always has been left wing. <br /><br />True its not the same analysis of the micro left groups who've done immense damage to the left in Ireland by their narrow almost zealous pursuit of intellectual purity at the expense of the lives of ordinary people. I'm old enough to remember pickets by left wing parties at the Labour conference where the May Day bank holiday was declared.<br /><br />The Labour Party is a Democratic Socialist Party, proud of our links to trade unions and has improved the lives of many people through the years and will continue to do this after the next election, come what may!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13337418092426100439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-44862545517718702252011-01-25T17:59:27.300+00:002011-01-25T17:59:27.300+00:00Joe,
I notice you don't have that 'ragbag...Joe,<br /><br />I notice you don't have that 'ragbag' candidate Seamus O'Brien on your poll (although you have those other two 'ragbags' Dwyer and Kelly).<br /><br />Does Labour even pretend to be left wing anymore? Good luck with getting that finance bill through.<br /><br />RoryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-68490861920777987322011-01-24T13:26:32.979+00:002011-01-24T13:26:32.979+00:00And if Lab gets into government whether in coaliti...And if Lab gets into government whether in coalition or on its own, the 'curious politics' must be a thing of the past.<br /><br />People want relief from the slavery to the banks (which still won't lend to those same people), they want transparency and innovative ways to get us out from under the bailout burden. Anything less won't wash.<br /><br />Be warned, more of the same-ism will be swiftly rejected by the citizenry.<br /><br />Oh, and Lennie last night admitted he and other ministers lied to us, this from last night's Week In Politics;<br /><br />"All of the ministers were aware that it was essential to protect the position of Ireland in the markets, and that you couldn’t concede that you were going into the IMF, for fear or prejudicing that position further. That was the position the government was in."<br /><br />And he wants to be FFailure leader?Paul Rowleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14102182768340990980noreply@blogger.com