tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post1762725097302124680..comments2023-10-26T12:19:08.652+01:00Comments on Cllr Joe Ryan's Blog: Labour conference; agenda for changeAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13337418092426100439noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-9126828335433901212009-03-29T05:13:00.000+01:002009-03-29T05:13:00.000+01:00Laim SmulliamOne of the reasons their same tomuted...Laim Smulliam<BR/><BR/><BR/>One of the reasons their same to<BR/>muted opposition to the prospect <BR/>of third level fees is because <BR/>there are perceived not going amount to much in costs of fees<BR/>and poorer students get a waiver <BR/>Even though sub prime student loans must be repaid reguardless of income, plus to have third level<BR/>completely dependant on tuition fees as means of “self Financing” has to be really very expensive.<BR/>At moment the highest the tuition fee the U.K. Is $6000. Its not a lot but however right now<BR/>university cheifs are demaning the right to set their own ranging from $10000, $20000 a year. At the moment the fees for the Royal College of Surgeons is $40000 a year. I know a taxi driver who has a Wife and 2 kids who is paying $6000 a year to study computers in maynooth university,hardly “rich”. What is more alarming is that Fianna Fáil is importing the <BR/>austrailian and New Zealand’s third models which is one the most expensive in the world<BR/>(only 15% of third level students are from working class back grounds in austraila)<BR/>Gerenally courses in austrailia range from $35000, $55000 a year<BR/><BR/>More imformation on the Austrailian and New Zealand’s third model system costs:<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tertiary_education_fees_in_Australia<BR/><BR/>http://www.students.org.nz/index.php?page=fees<BR/><BR/>http://hsudarren.wordpress.com/2007/11/23/inflation-fees-increase-and-prs/<BR/><BR/>http://learnonline.wordpress.com/2009/02/14/politics-of-student-debt-in-nz/<BR/><BR/>http://learnonline.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/could-we-make-nz-education-free/<BR/><BR/>The possible furture of irish third level.<BR/><BR/>http://www.turbulenceahead.com/search/label/third-level%20fees<BR/><BR/>http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0202/060.html?partner=email<BR/><BR/><BR/>Another reason Fianna Fáil has such an easy ride over the tuition fees is the Perception than that Free fees only befit the rich, these figures prove other wise<BR/><BR/>The socio-economic intake into the universities<BR/>Children of agricultural workers accounted for only 0.3pc<BR/>children of unskilled workers <BR/>(2.5pc),<BR/>semi-skilled for 5.1pc; <BR/>skilled manual for 9.9pc; <BR/>and non-manual for 9.7pc<BR/><BR/><BR/>The socio-economic intake into the institutes of technology <BR/>children of unskilled workers <BR/>5.3pc), <BR/>semi-skilled (8pc) <BR/>and skilled manual (15.6pc) <BR/>and non- manual (11pc).<BR/><BR/>http://www.independent.ie/national-news/study-uncovers-class-divide-in-universities-1650735.html<BR/><BR/>Note: The institutes of technology are opposed to fees and they never charged them <BR/><BR/>The rise in numbers <BR/><BR/>“But the really big gains in Dublin are in areas with high levels of social disadvantage, where, in some cases, the proportion of 17-19-year-olds at college has more than doubled since 1998.<BR/>In the Dublin 1 north inner city, participation has shot up from 8.9pc to 22.8pc, but the Ballyfermot area remains stubbornly low at 11.7pc.”<BR/><BR/><BR/>“The participation rate of students from the semi-skilled and unskilled groups rose from 23pc to 33pc-<BR/>40pc, while students from the skilled manual group rose from 32pc 50pc- 60pc. However, the semi-skilled and unskilled manual groups, as well as other non-manual groups, account for a smaller share of new entrants than their share of the population.<BR/>There is particular concern about the non-manual groups, such as gardai below the rank of sergeant, prison officers and clerical officers, whose participation rate declined from 29pc to 27pc since 1998”<BR/>“* A large increase in participation in Dublin 24 from 26pc to 40c and in Dublin 15 from 40pc to 55pc is probably linked to proximity to Tallaght and Blanchardstown institutes of technology.”<BR/><BR/>http://www.independent.ie/education/latest-news/number-at-college-soars-across-all-social-classes-105623.html<BR/><BR/><BR/>This economist Keynesianism advise to save the country <BR/><BR/>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2008/11/19/act-now-minister-or-we-will-all-live-to-regret-it<BR/><BR/>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2009/02/22/my-plan-to-save-the-country<BR/><BR/>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2009/03/22/we-need-workfare-not-welfare632C5R09OW8https://www.blogger.com/profile/09888950392738793470noreply@blogger.com