tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post4692272589004990426..comments2023-10-26T12:19:08.652+01:00Comments on Cllr Joe Ryan's Blog: UKIP’s dirty work in Ireland pulling the Legge.Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13337418092426100439noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-65311210225829384322009-09-29T01:45:02.175+01:002009-09-29T01:45:02.175+01:00Joe,
As you well know this Lisbon Treaty is a re...Joe,<br /><br />As you well know this Lisbon Treaty is a re-hash of the EU Constitution, rejected in two out of two referendums (France and The Netherlands 2005).<br /><br />The Irish people rejected this treaty in a referendum in 2008.<br /><br />Who in God's name cares about the UKIP?<br /><br />No means No Joe, stop flogging a dead horse.<br /><br />RoryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-82083204387010951212009-09-29T00:23:17.636+01:002009-09-29T00:23:17.636+01:00My diifculty with UKIP is that they are using the ...My diifculty with UKIP is that they are using the Irish refernendum to suit their UK agenda. They've no interest in Ireland whatsoever, they oposed the Anglo Irish Agreement. The facts are that Spain & Luxemburg voted yes, France elected Sarkozy in the the knowledge that he's implement Lisbon. The Germans re-elected their Chancellor who last week endorsed Lisbon. Do you actually beleive that the German's Poles and French are all going to hand over their independence, democracy and freedom (your words) to the other 24 mations who've signed up to Lisbon? <br />None of these nations came down in the last shower and on Friday you'll find neither did Ireland!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13337418092426100439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-80591468087775844602009-09-25T10:11:58.697+01:002009-09-25T10:11:58.697+01:00You complaion of UKIP telling the truth, and ignor...You complaion of UKIP telling the truth, and ignore the fact the EU elites have come to ireland to support the surrender of democracy and freedom. Unless you understand the REAL implications of this treaty, do not be so confident in your critisism. Your very democracy, independance and freedom is at stake. This is your LAST referendum if you fall for their lies and deceit! Why do you think they have denied the rest of Europe a say in this? Because they would say NO, just as the French, Dutch and Irish have already done!!! This is word for word, the same treaty as you have already voted for, and has the same implications as the Lisbon Constitution. Please do not fall for it!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11286303979585266785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-33001537253264247652009-09-07T01:17:55.886+01:002009-09-07T01:17:55.886+01:00I think it is unbelievable arrogance on the part o...I think it is unbelievable arrogance on the part of UKIP to mailshot all households in Ireland with their Neo-Colonial twisted arguments - I didn't read about this legge bloke, just about Farage, who made such a show of himself in the European parliament last year. I have a gut reaction to this type of stuff, not getting logical and reasonable at all, just sets me ranting - I posted the link to the Irish times article on said UKIP plans, I was so furious. Still am. Good that you wrote about it. <br />There is an amazing amount of anti-European sentiment out there among people who are glad to take the Euro or shilling or pence for the past number of years and forget what Europe has done for us, those too young to remember what life was like pre-EEC should take a history lesson, Ireland had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th and 21st century in areas like equality, women's rights, contraception access, and divorce. The priest-ridden country that sheltered its shame in magdalen laudries and industrial schools would still rule the roost if Ireland hadn't the confidence it gained in recent decades to root it out and expose the corruption at all levels, moral, political and financial.<br />I think we have a lot to thank Europe for, not to be pulling up the drawbridge now. <br />Coir and their evil cohorts need to be kept well at bay.Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16116884676266268214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-25851644773691558472009-09-06T14:03:32.551+01:002009-09-06T14:03:32.551+01:00Mr. William Legge
The intervention of UKIP in th...Mr. William Legge<br />The intervention of UKIP in the Irish Lisbon 2 treaty election is an act of unbelievable aragroance from an obscure and questionable English MEP called William Legge Earl of Dartmouth, and maybe has just lost the election! For the no camp<br />This gent is no friend of Ireland, as Will wants to restrict the right of EU citizens to go and work in Britain. So you don’t have to be a Genius to conclude that if he had his way he would like to move all the Irish back to Ireland from the UK <br />The No Camp has being dealt a bitter blow by this unwanted intervention and has even raised new questions regarding the bigger picture for Europe <br />However unpopular the current government is they are after all “Irish Politicians” and are voted in to office by the Irish people and can be voted out again <br />British politicians however, never have had the welfare of the Irish people’s interest at hart and this alone, makes me wonder, and prompts me to rethink my No stance!<br />Love of Ireland will always come first<br />Thomas Clarke <br />More at www.machholz.wordpress.comNetzoners.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15460625477401637778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-52464151742416044232009-09-06T01:22:10.595+01:002009-09-06T01:22:10.595+01:00Joe wrote,
"I cannot understand left wing pa...Joe wrote,<br /><br /><i>"I cannot understand left wing parties opposing it."</i><br /><br />Why should the Socialist Party, the People Before Profit Alliance, the Workers Party, the Socialist Workers Party and the Irish Republican Socialist Party stand shoulder to shoulder with FF, FG, IBEC and all the rest of the capitalist right? <br /><br />Again I refer back to the last point on page 3 of the <i>Extended Guide to the Lisbon Treaty</i> published by the referendum commission, <i>"The European Council has also issued a solemn declaration on social issues including worker's rights. This is a political statement and is not legally binding."</i><br /><br />It's all very well to keep bringing up Coir, SF and now the UKIP, but look at Labor's bedfellows on the Yes side.<br /><br />RoryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-8967109657349805832009-09-06T00:57:21.839+01:002009-09-06T00:57:21.839+01:00Michael O'Leary refused to say on "The La...Michael O'Leary refused to say on "The Last Word" whether he voted Yes or not last year so you can presume he didn't. Could you visulise Cox, IBEC and Co lining up with Coir? Do you seriously beleive that the status quo i.e Nice or Maastricht is not in the interest of business? In that case I was wrong in voting No to both!<br />The Charter of Fundamentla Rights is a huge advance for working people. I cannot understand left wing parties opposing it.<br />Irish nationalists in SF ahve every right to line up with UKIP an avowed Pro-British party that is opposed to immigration from Europe, but don't waste my time with this SF left wing stuff. I hope yhe impact of a Britsh accent lecturing Irish people affects the result.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13337418092426100439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-1159622719754089972009-09-05T20:45:37.581+01:002009-09-05T20:45:37.581+01:00see http://ukipwatch.org/see http://ukipwatch.org/Michael Mc Loughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08178134904376026114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464668402831298194.post-1386463584840073152009-09-05T14:28:46.710+01:002009-09-05T14:28:46.710+01:00You make a big deal about the fact the there are t...You make a big deal about the fact the there are those opposed to Lisbon coming from a left and right perspective.<br />Yet the same could be said about the yes side. On the one hand we have Labour and some (not all) leading trade unionists supporting Lisbon as a protector of workers rights and on the other hand we have Michael O'Leary, Pat Cox, IBEC, FF, FG calling for a yes saying that it's good for big business.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15364990627761592087noreply@blogger.com